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Re: Ubersetzungssoftware gesucht
- Subject: Re: Ubersetzungssoftware gesucht
- From: mhaenel_bEi_lynet.de (Matthias Haenel)
- Date: 25 Apr 1999 23:02:00 +0100
Steffen.Koenig_bEi_t-online.de meinte am 23.04.99 um 20:26 zum Thema
"Ubersetzungssoftware gesucht":
> gibt es jemanden unter Euch, der mit Software zur Ubersetzung von
> Fremdsprachen arbeitet?
Hallo Steffen! Die Suchmaschine "Altavista" bietet die Moeglichkeit, Texte
zu uebersetzen. Basissprache ist die englische Sprache, d.h. man kann
deutsch in englisch bzw. umgekehrt, spanisch in englisch, aber nicht
deutsch in spanisch uebersetzen.
Wie geht man nun vor? Zunaechst ruft man die Adresse
http://www.altavista.de
auf. Auf der 3. Seite befindet sich ein Verweis zum automatischen
Uebersetzer. Anschliessend erhaelt man ein Formular, in das man alternativ
einen Kurztext oder die WEB-Adresse der zu uebersetzenden Seite angibt. In
einer ausklappbaren Liste waehlt man die Sprachen aus, von der und in die
zu uebersetzen ist. Anschliessend klickt man auf "Uebersetzen".
Als Kostprobe uebermittele ich einen Auschnitt der englischen Uebersetzung
meines WEB-Abschnittes
Auch als Blinder bin ich am Netz
Gruss
Matthias
Since I am blind, I cannot read the display with the eyes. In order to
be able to operate at all with the computer, I need an add-on module,
which translates me the sceen contents. The translation for blind
computer users takes place into synthetic language or. Braille. Since
blind ones already learned in the school to deal with a typewriter it
is unproblematic to make over the normal PC keyboard all necessary
inputs.
Under these prerequisites I can be occupied also as blind with the
Internet. Pictures and diagrams are still locked for me naturally, but
Internet offers a quantity of verbal information. Not only -
newspapers in conventional printout on paper are locked for me, on the
other hand I can use the ONLINE supply of the mirror, the world or the
time still problem-free.
As Browser many blind ones and also I use LYNX, which has really
optimal characteristics. LYNX is not special software for
seeing-impaired one, it however turned out that this Browser the needs
of blind ones at most, originally developed for scientific areas,
comes against. Here the advantages in the overview:
* Portationen for different operating systems (UNIX, DOS, OS2),
* Creation of purely text-oriented results,
* Support of the standard HTML code as well as most forms,
* Freeware,
* Advancement is in prospect.
Unfortunately it must be stated however increasingly that many
designers of the HTML standard say good-bye. It is well-known and
comprehensible the fact that pictures and graphs for many are a nice
loosening but if graphic information represents the base for operation
or excluding concerning this the information which can be displayed is
produced, is generally useless for seeing-impaired ones applications.
Notes like " please use you the MS Internet Explorer " or " switching
you your Java Scrit interpreters in, around our supply to use " have
for me the meaning that I cannot use the appropriate supply.
So that these remarks do not work too theoretically, I selected a few
examples. Perhaps it becomes clear that the even following supplies
would be very helpful, if one could use these.
Electronic directory
Here is it particularly unfortunate, because blind ones cannot use
normal directories.
The picture newspaper
The problems become particularly clear with the message Ticker.
Tourism information
Always this page could not be a positive example, since also a version
is offered there, for one Java necessarily. Open is however the
question, how will keep still so upright long.
Windows for blind ones
In the following paragraph I would like to deal with it, why for blind
ones at all WEB Browser such as LYNX under DOS a so great importance
to have.
In order to be able to operate with Windows, one needs addition
software. The function of this software consists of interpreting and
transferring into a purely text-oriented information structure the
graphically oriented surface. The output of the transferred
information is made by the output media usual for blind ones.
Apart from the interpretation and conversion of the sceen contents
also a mouse function is emulated. This occurs, by looking a certain
place up on the display with the help of the output medium and
reconstructing these with the usual mouse functions. That is not
completed naturally with the mouse, but for this certain combinations
of keys on the normal keyboard exist or through particularly for these
purposes created controls on the Braillezeile.
As this description, are also the software and associated handling
appear as complicated. Although there are already several developments
of different manufacturers, the technique still is in the well-known "
child shoes " after my view. This is on the one hand because of the
fact that on the part of the programmers that does not exist to
application software a uniform Design which can be used in the long
run. The possibilities of expressing certain predicates on the display
it is as well as no boundaries set to the programmers. Thus there are
always new motives of the information representation - traffic lights,
full or empty trucks - with new versions of programs one goes to the
world of the Sybole. Brain and eye can interpret these symbols
spontaneous usually. Differently behaves at software, which is to
transfer pictures into texts. Exactly this function has among other
things the bridging often commodity for the use of graphic user
surfaces for blind ones. The more the application software picture
instead of text language begins, the more with difficulty becomes it
for the bridging often commodity.
Windows solutions were developed predominantly in the last years by
the enterprises, which drive out also Braillezeilen or acoustic output
systems. Software and output medium grew together usually so closely
together that a change of the software is inevitably with a change of
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